I wish to practice jow ga kung fu and wing chun kung fu.....Thanks
What benefits will i get from chinese martial arts ?
If you choose to steady a traditional martial you will find many benefits, some will take time to develop and others will become apparent early in your training. Anything worth doing is worth doing well and for an extended period time. Give yourself time to develop in the art.
I'm not familiar with the first style you mentioned but Wing Chun is well known and quite diverse. Jackie Chan's favortie style if I'm not mistaken.
Find out if these arts work on internal aspects as well. You will want to learn as much internal as external to create a powerful base in your art.
If you want to look into more free fighting arts try Kung Fu San Soo. This is not a traditional kung fu style but focuses on aspects of free fighting, it has leverages, takedowns, throws, striking and lots of great manipulations. All chinese martial arts have a form of boxing or free fighting aspect to them San Soo focuses 100% on this aspect of the art. It's a down and dirty self defense martial art.
Whatever martial art you seek find one that fits you as a person and be sure to find an instructor you enjoy and respect. Also be prepared to be a good student.
I recently read a story that is very applicable to new potentially, head strong students (not suggesting anything I simply like this story for new students). A ninja climbed a great wall and entered a well known master's home to plead for the master to teach him his style of fighting. Upon hearing the request the master immediately left the room and returned with a pot of hot tea and cup, he placed the tea cup down and began filling the tea cup which quickly overflowed and began to puddle on the table. The ninja exclaims to the master, master your cup is overflowing you should stop pouring. The master quickly replied this tea cup is like you, you are so full there is no more room for my training. To be a good student first you must empty yourself, are you able to humble yourself?
Remain a student for the entirety of your life and be humble in your practice and endeavors. You never know when your next teacher will appear so learn from everyone you encounter in your life and in your art.
Enjoy your quest and enjoy finding yourself through your studies.
KK
Reply:Chinese martial art can benefits you the defend technique and strength. However you should also learn or get train for free style fighting that can be apply and practical use in street's defend.
Reply:Benefits? A great Body.
And the knowledge to defend one's self and others. Do you need anything more?
Reply:The benefits to practicing Kung Fu are many and varied, I would recommend to get the most out of any art you should select one and dedicate some time to it. Wing Chun Kung Fu is designed to be learned over a period of around 5 years of full time training which is pretty rare these days which is why people seem to think that it isn't effective for "real" fighting, realistically there aren't many people that have the dicipline, time or faith in a style to train it in the way that it was inteded to be learnt and this is why these styles are more readily being discarded or being merged with other ideas to make the journey quicker.
I can't tell you much about Jow Ga as I do not practice it. I do however practice Wing Chun and do believe it to be an excellent and well thought out system depending upon the style of Wing Chun that you learn, try to find a teacher that is open to new ideas and training methods.
Wing Chun has both an internal and external focus so this will benefit both your body and mind, however most martial arts have this aspect as it understood that you must first master yourself before you can master someone else.
Monday, November 16, 2009
Here are the top 3 martial arts!! Good research?
Muay thai
Hapkido
wing chun
Here are the top 3 martial arts!! Good research?
VERY GOOD!!
You actually spelled them correctly.
Reply:And what exactly did you base these conclusions on? Anyone can pick three random things and say they're the best in their class.
Reply:Hmm... Neither of those combine too well. May Muay Thai and Hapkido will be okay but... I wouldn't count on it.
Wing chun with anything else is a big no no!
Plus what if someone take you down? Those will be useless and you'll be laying perfectly still as you get a free dental job done.
Reply:First off, there is no best in martial arts, it's like a game of rock-paper-scissors. Just because rock beats scissors doesn't mean it's best, paper comes along and beats it.
Muy Thai is a very hard physical art and it's both very violent and very effective. However, it is also prone to student injury. In real Muy Thai training you are hitting hard wooden object to practice and to harden your limbs. This means a lot of broken bones though. Later on in life that adds up to some crippling damage done to your body. Just look at the old Muy Thai instructors, old in Muy Thai is anything over 50. Other arts get much more longevity out of their instructors because they can still do their arts into their 90's.
Hapkido is very good, very effective art. However, I've seen it beaten by JuJitsu, BJJ, Jeet Kun Do, and Shaolin Chuan Fa (Kung Fu).
Wing Chun focuses on speed rather then hard hits and is a really good art for street fighting, especially if you're not built like an athlete. However, it focuses heavily on hand use and leaves kicking training almost as an afterthought. This leads many students to get incomplete training until they have almost mastered the art.
Reply:A statement like that is meaningless unless you document your standards, specifications, data and data source/s.
In other words: What is your JUSTIFICATION for that statement?
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Reply:Thats a load of crap. Who told you that ???
Reply:American Boxing
Muay thai
Jiu Jitsu
if i had to pick 3, that's what i'd pick.
P.S. - Dont say American Boxing isn't a martial art, because it is.
Reply:That is your opinion. But, you know what they say. Opinions are like a**holes. Everyone has one and most of them stink. How did you research that? I'm sure many other martial artists would argue those findings.
Reply:I prefer Okinawan karate-do myself
Reply:Yeah that sounds about right, muay thai, well thats kickboxing,hapkido=jujutsu, and wing chun well thats just another rendition of irish boxing. the style doesnt make the man the man makes the style.
Reply:All I can say is that if that is your assesmet, and you truly believe that then your right. I, myself, would not choose those three but if you have experience with the three and have used them in practical application and they work. Then your right , for you. Don't let anyone try to alter your view if you believe this to be true. (of course I will assume you have experience and practical application with those three systems)
Hapkido
wing chun
Here are the top 3 martial arts!! Good research?
VERY GOOD!!
You actually spelled them correctly.
Reply:And what exactly did you base these conclusions on? Anyone can pick three random things and say they're the best in their class.
Reply:Hmm... Neither of those combine too well. May Muay Thai and Hapkido will be okay but... I wouldn't count on it.
Wing chun with anything else is a big no no!
Plus what if someone take you down? Those will be useless and you'll be laying perfectly still as you get a free dental job done.
Reply:First off, there is no best in martial arts, it's like a game of rock-paper-scissors. Just because rock beats scissors doesn't mean it's best, paper comes along and beats it.
Muy Thai is a very hard physical art and it's both very violent and very effective. However, it is also prone to student injury. In real Muy Thai training you are hitting hard wooden object to practice and to harden your limbs. This means a lot of broken bones though. Later on in life that adds up to some crippling damage done to your body. Just look at the old Muy Thai instructors, old in Muy Thai is anything over 50. Other arts get much more longevity out of their instructors because they can still do their arts into their 90's.
Hapkido is very good, very effective art. However, I've seen it beaten by JuJitsu, BJJ, Jeet Kun Do, and Shaolin Chuan Fa (Kung Fu).
Wing Chun focuses on speed rather then hard hits and is a really good art for street fighting, especially if you're not built like an athlete. However, it focuses heavily on hand use and leaves kicking training almost as an afterthought. This leads many students to get incomplete training until they have almost mastered the art.
Reply:A statement like that is meaningless unless you document your standards, specifications, data and data source/s.
In other words: What is your JUSTIFICATION for that statement?
.
Reply:Thats a load of crap. Who told you that ???
Reply:American Boxing
Muay thai
Jiu Jitsu
if i had to pick 3, that's what i'd pick.
P.S. - Dont say American Boxing isn't a martial art, because it is.
Reply:That is your opinion. But, you know what they say. Opinions are like a**holes. Everyone has one and most of them stink. How did you research that? I'm sure many other martial artists would argue those findings.
Reply:I prefer Okinawan karate-do myself
Reply:Yeah that sounds about right, muay thai, well thats kickboxing,hapkido=jujutsu, and wing chun well thats just another rendition of irish boxing. the style doesnt make the man the man makes the style.
Reply:All I can say is that if that is your assesmet, and you truly believe that then your right. I, myself, would not choose those three but if you have experience with the three and have used them in practical application and they work. Then your right , for you. Don't let anyone try to alter your view if you believe this to be true. (of course I will assume you have experience and practical application with those three systems)
How do i find out what makes me happy?
I know this sounds like a stupid question but i'm sure there are alot of people out there like me who feel a little bit lost and don't know what to do!
I know i like drawing and thats one thing but what else?
I mean one other thing is i have been thinking about joining Wing Chun because i've always loved Bruce Lee but when i think of the prospect of me training in that kind of enviroment (i'm not sure if i'm writing this properly) it sounds quite daunting! Maybe i just have to go down there and see for myself.
But what else?
What fun things are there to do and i'm not thinking of drinking or taking drugs!!!
Things that make u happy, good honest answers are welcome!
Thankyou
How do i find out what makes me happy?
Have a friend go with you,you never know both of you might just enjoy it and can practise the moves with each other. If you enjoy drawing check out art classes in your area, you don't have to be Picasso to have a bit of fun with it. Look through a list of classes in your area there might be something else that you haven't thought about doing that grabs your attention. Photography is great fun too and there are sites you can join in order to show your images and receive advice from fellow photographers on how to improve your technique. You don't need an expensive camera or equipment. Rambling / hill walking can be fun too, check for clubs in your area. it's a good way to meet people and keep fit at the same time ( if the photography idea appeals, there's a good opportunity there too to catch some great images ) If you like art then invest in some watercolours and brushes and give it a try or some other arts and crafts, like pottery. Try lots of different activities nothing lost if you don't like it , but just maybe you'll find something that you love. Good luck to you in whatever you do.
Reply:I can't help you find out what makes you tick, but I don't think you have to feel worried about starting a martial art. The instructors and the other students are probably friendly and will be glad to have you there, so don't worry about that and give it a shot.
Reply:Sounds silly but spending time with your friends. I also think that being on your own is often nice, i think you have to spend time alone to enjoy the company of others. I dont mean just sit at home doing nothing, i mean reading/drawing....etc!
Reply:in my opinion, you are going about the search for happiness somewhat backwards. the secret is to feel happy and then to do. true joy is always within you. seek it there and you'll find that everything you do makes you happy.
Reply:If you're creative, why not pick up a guitar or something?
No-one becomes Bruce Lee overnight, but we all know what happened to Bruce Lee... AND brandon Lee
Reply:I think I Know what you mean. Try out the Wing Chun you will probably enjoy the training and everybody has to start somewhere. You will certainly meet like minded people and you never know what doors that might open.
All sorts of things make me happy and I guess they vary greatly. Obviously my children's laughter makes me happy in a motherly love way, driving on a beautiful spring day lifts me but for a buzz of happiness that lasts for week it has got to be a Will Young concert.
Reply:just give it a bit of time. Life gets better as you grow older, as long as you haven't encumbered yourself by making bad decisions earlier on (e.g. having a kid with the wrong person, or getting into crime or whatever.) As you grow older you become more relaxed and self-confident. You become more aware of what you like and what you don't.
If you want to try a martial art you could start with Tai chi or something a bit less hectic than Wing Chun. I did a bit of Kung fu for a very very short time and the teacher always got us to do some Tai Chi at the end of each lesson. I guess it was to ground us before we went back outside. I liked that more than the actual Kung Fu come to think of it!
I recommend foreign travel too. Like they say, it broadens the mind.
Reply:For me, when I'm feeling a little lost or unhappy, nothing works better than getting on a highway with my windows down, and just listening to the sound of the road, and some great music. It's like meditation for me. Or go out into nature, get your hands in the soil, and listen to the sounds of a wild place. I really feel like that's a good way to ground yourself. Do your karate class. Don't be afraid of life, even when it's scary and intimidating. Have a conversation about something controversial with someone you enjoy talking to. There's nothing like a spirited debate to revive the soul. What it comes down to is, there are a lot of very simple things in this world that can make us feel happy, and motivated, and secure. The key is not to ignore the simple moments of happiness, those seconds when the whole thing feels right. Thats where you find joy.
cotton tree
I know i like drawing and thats one thing but what else?
I mean one other thing is i have been thinking about joining Wing Chun because i've always loved Bruce Lee but when i think of the prospect of me training in that kind of enviroment (i'm not sure if i'm writing this properly) it sounds quite daunting! Maybe i just have to go down there and see for myself.
But what else?
What fun things are there to do and i'm not thinking of drinking or taking drugs!!!
Things that make u happy, good honest answers are welcome!
Thankyou
How do i find out what makes me happy?
Have a friend go with you,you never know both of you might just enjoy it and can practise the moves with each other. If you enjoy drawing check out art classes in your area, you don't have to be Picasso to have a bit of fun with it. Look through a list of classes in your area there might be something else that you haven't thought about doing that grabs your attention. Photography is great fun too and there are sites you can join in order to show your images and receive advice from fellow photographers on how to improve your technique. You don't need an expensive camera or equipment. Rambling / hill walking can be fun too, check for clubs in your area. it's a good way to meet people and keep fit at the same time ( if the photography idea appeals, there's a good opportunity there too to catch some great images ) If you like art then invest in some watercolours and brushes and give it a try or some other arts and crafts, like pottery. Try lots of different activities nothing lost if you don't like it , but just maybe you'll find something that you love. Good luck to you in whatever you do.
Reply:I can't help you find out what makes you tick, but I don't think you have to feel worried about starting a martial art. The instructors and the other students are probably friendly and will be glad to have you there, so don't worry about that and give it a shot.
Reply:Sounds silly but spending time with your friends. I also think that being on your own is often nice, i think you have to spend time alone to enjoy the company of others. I dont mean just sit at home doing nothing, i mean reading/drawing....etc!
Reply:in my opinion, you are going about the search for happiness somewhat backwards. the secret is to feel happy and then to do. true joy is always within you. seek it there and you'll find that everything you do makes you happy.
Reply:If you're creative, why not pick up a guitar or something?
No-one becomes Bruce Lee overnight, but we all know what happened to Bruce Lee... AND brandon Lee
Reply:I think I Know what you mean. Try out the Wing Chun you will probably enjoy the training and everybody has to start somewhere. You will certainly meet like minded people and you never know what doors that might open.
All sorts of things make me happy and I guess they vary greatly. Obviously my children's laughter makes me happy in a motherly love way, driving on a beautiful spring day lifts me but for a buzz of happiness that lasts for week it has got to be a Will Young concert.
Reply:just give it a bit of time. Life gets better as you grow older, as long as you haven't encumbered yourself by making bad decisions earlier on (e.g. having a kid with the wrong person, or getting into crime or whatever.) As you grow older you become more relaxed and self-confident. You become more aware of what you like and what you don't.
If you want to try a martial art you could start with Tai chi or something a bit less hectic than Wing Chun. I did a bit of Kung fu for a very very short time and the teacher always got us to do some Tai Chi at the end of each lesson. I guess it was to ground us before we went back outside. I liked that more than the actual Kung Fu come to think of it!
I recommend foreign travel too. Like they say, it broadens the mind.
Reply:For me, when I'm feeling a little lost or unhappy, nothing works better than getting on a highway with my windows down, and just listening to the sound of the road, and some great music. It's like meditation for me. Or go out into nature, get your hands in the soil, and listen to the sounds of a wild place. I really feel like that's a good way to ground yourself. Do your karate class. Don't be afraid of life, even when it's scary and intimidating. Have a conversation about something controversial with someone you enjoy talking to. There's nothing like a spirited debate to revive the soul. What it comes down to is, there are a lot of very simple things in this world that can make us feel happy, and motivated, and secure. The key is not to ignore the simple moments of happiness, those seconds when the whole thing feels right. Thats where you find joy.
cotton tree
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or Japanese Jiu Jitsu?
What is the big difference between brazilian jiu jitsu and the traditional japanese jiu jitsu, what would mix better with Wing Chun?
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or Japanese Jiu Jitsu?
BJJ has more ground techniques. It is intended more for a "one on one" match style fight. It works great in self defense if you are isolated and alone with your opponent. It does utilize more "leverage" style and as such requires less strength. Most of what makes BJJ, BJJ is there ground techniques. They also favor the guard quite a bit. Japanese JJ will probably blend better with wing-chun. Traditional JJ is a combination of striking and locking. They try to avoid the ground at all cost. This is, in my opinion, better for actual defense since very rarely would you want to be on your back on the ground in a fight. Or on top of your opponent on the ground in a fight. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that most fights aren't going to be "one on one." Especially if you are getting the better of someone else. Since JJ is the "parent" style of BJJ then if you are not interested in the "ground techniques" you're better off to get the stand up from the source. Plus, I doubt Wing Chun is very functional on your back with your feet in the air.
Reply:i think japanese is better because dispite that brazilians have better judo and they have that other techneque that gets the opponent confused japenese have more techneaques and it would blend with wing chun
Reply:i would recommend boxing, most of the street fights are fistfight, nobody does grabbling in the streets, so boxing remains the most effective way of fighting.
Reply:Japanese Jiujitsu is based more on power. BJJ is based much more on technique and leverage, allowing amuch smaller person to submit a bigger stronger opponant. And personally, I prefer learning ground skills simply because the first thing a man does when he attacks a female is knock her to the ground. You have to know how to defend yourself from your back
Reply:BJJ is more sport, JJ is more defense. The reason to learn it over boxing is because most street fighters punch, use the element of surprise.
Like we say in jujutsu
punch a man he gets back up
kick a man he may get back up
break his arms and legs he is guaranteed not to get back up
Reply:japenese.cross train in muay thai.
Reply:Japanese is going to be less practical and more "traditional". More of an "art". BJJ is more for fighting. Prob BJJ goes better w/ Wing Chun since it's more loose.
Reply:The first thing that you have to understand is that there is not a single system of jujutsu (that's how you spell the Japanese kind). The Japanese use the word "jujutsu" to refer to unarmed combat in general; so many older martial arts would include a few jujutsu techniques among the more important sword, spear, archery, etc. techniques.
At the beginning of the 17th century, a thousand-year-long period of civil war came to an end, and Japanese samurai were able focus on one specific area of combat for study. From this period come many different styles called "jujutsu," some of which are very similar and some of which are very different. Some still incorporated weapons; some specialized in ground fighting; some specialized in striking, and were very similar to Okinawan karate; most, however, specialized in throwing techniques and standing grappling.
At the end of the 19th century, a man named Kano Jigoro developed an athletic form of jujutsu called "judo"; it was designed from techniques taken from several different styles of jujutsu, but eliminated the more dangerous techniques, such as joint-breaking throws. It was intended as a form of physical exercise and self-defense which could be practiced at full speed without partners injuring each other.
Maeda Mitsuyo was a practitioner of judo who moved to Brazil and taught the Gracie family. He modified judo to incorporate more ground fighting, and used the old designation of "jujutsu." The Gracie family continued to refine it to their own purposes until creating their own public vehicle, the UFC. They also used a Portuguese pronounciation of the word, calling their system jiu-jitsu.
Brazilian jiu-jitsu enjoys a great advantage in the ring. Essentially, you trade all of your mobility and situational awareness for the ability to inflict pain or unconsciousness upon a single opponent.
Contrarily, most systems of jujutsu train to remain standing. While this may lose matches in a necessarily aggressive competitive sport, maintaining situational awareness and the ability to move around your environment, especially in the presence of weaponry and multiple opponents, makes the Japanese systems more tactically viable. Also, due to the emphasis on remaining upright, the Japanese systems would blend better with Wing Chun.
My personal recommendation, if you have access to a school, is to check out Danzan ryu:
www.danzan.com.
Train hard!
Reply:Development of Jiu-Jitsu
Jiu-Jitsu itself was developed in Japan during the Feudal period. It was originally an art designed for warfare, but after the abolition of the Feudal system in Japan, certain modifications needed to be made to the art in order to make it suitable for practice. During Feudal times, Jiu-Jitsu was also known as Yawara, Hakuda, Kogusoko, and an assortment of other names. The earliest recorded use of the word "jiu-jitsu" happens in 1532 and is coined by the Takenouchi Ryu (school). The history of the art during this time is uncertain because teachers kept everything secret to give their art a feeling of importance and then would change the stories of their art to suit their own needs.
After the Feudal period in Japan ended (Jiu-jitsu was no longer needed on the battlefield), a way to practice the art realistically was needed, which is why Jigoro Kano (1860--1938), a practitioner of Jiu-Jitsu, developed his own system of Jiu-Jitsu in the late 1800's, called Judo. Judo was helpful because it allowed practitioners the ability to try the art safely and realistically at the same time. The most important contribution Judo made to the practice of "Jiu-jitsu" was the concept of Rondori. Rondori was a form of sparing and contained a set of sportive rules that made practice safe, yet realistic. Because of the sportive outlet (rules that made practice safe), students of Jiu-jitsu from Kano's school were able to practice more frequently due to the fact that they were not always recovering from injuries. This multiplies the amount of training time for student's of Kano's school and drastically increased their abilities. Judo (Kano's version of Jiu-jitsu) was watered down from the complete form (of Jiu-jitsu), but still contained enough techniques to preserve its realistic effectiveness. The one problem that occurred was, in Kano's opinion, ground work was not as important as achieving the throw or take down, therefore ground fighting was not emphasized in Judo and became weak in that system. Judo also began placing too many rules and regulations on the art to make it more acceptable as an Olympic sport. Leg locks were not allowed, and when a fight went to the ground, a player had only 25 seconds to escape a hold or pin before the match was lost. These are a few of the rules that hindered Judo as a realistic form of self-defense. Then why did Judo flourish and why was it so great? Even with all the rules and restrictions, the time-tested principle of "pure grappler beats pure striker," still holds true. The fact remains that most fights, even those fights occurring between strikers with no grappling experience, end up in a clinch. You see the clinch in just about every boxing match, and hundreds of punches usually need to be thrown to end the fight with a strike, which gives the grappler plenty of opportunity to take his/her opponent to the ground, where a pure striker has no experience and is at the grappler's mercy.
After a match-up between older styles of Jiu-jitsu and Judo at the Tokyo police headquarters, Judo was named the national martial art in Japan. It was the official art used by law enforcement in the late 1800's, and continues to be popular to this day. During World War II, many U.S. soldiers were exposed to the art of Judo and brought it back to America with them. The first issue of Black Belt magazine here in America (1961), featured a sketch of a Judo throw and was a special Judo issue.
It wasn't until the birth of martial arts in Hollywood that the mystique of martial arts myths were catapulted to the public eye on a large scale. Here in the U.S. especially, Bruce Lee was one of the greatest catalysts for martial arts in the world today. Bruce Lee was actually a student of Judo and did many studies on grappling while he was alive. He criticized traditional martial arts as being ineffective, but ironically spread more myths about martial arts through his movies than almost anyone in martial arts history.
Jigoro Kano was the founder of Judo, however, Judo is simply a style of Jiu-jitsu and not a separate martial art. Kano was not the first to use the name Judo, the Jiu-jitsu schools he studied at, which would be the source of much of his Judo's techniques had used the phrase before he made it famous in the late 1800's.
The first use of the name Judo was by Seijun Inoue IV, who applied it to his Jujitsu of Jikishin-ryu. Students of Jikishin-ryu Judo were not only expected to master its ninety-seven techniques, but to also develop into generous and gentle-mannered individuals.
Kuninori Suzuki V, the Master of Kito-ryu (Kito means to Rise and Fall) Jiu-jitsu, changed the name of Kito-kumiuchi to Kito-ryu Judo in 1714. The most important contribution that kito ryu would offer Judo was the principle of kuzushi (off-balancing), which is the key to the throwing techniques of modern Judo. Jigoro Kano studied the judo of Jikishin-ryu and Kito-ryu, and incorporated some of their concepts into his original system, which he named Kodokan Judo.
Judo is made up of many styles of Jiu-jitsu whose masters Kano had studied with. The most notable were Jikishin-ryu, Kito-ryu, and later Fusen-ryu would be incorporated for its groundwork (ne waza) as Kano would ask the style's head master, Mataemon Tanabe for his syllabus. Yokiashi Yamashita (Kano's Chief assistant) would add his knowledge of Yoshin Ryu ju jitsu and Tenshin shinyo Ryu ju jitsu, both of which, he was a master.
In 1912, Kano met with the remaining leader masters of Jiu Jitsu to finalize a Kodokan syllabus of training and kata. Aoyagi of Sosusihis Ryu, Takano, Yano, Kotaro Imei and Hikasuburo Ohshima from Takeuisi Ryu. Jushin Sekiguchi and Mogichi Tsumizu from Sekiguchi Ryu, Eguchi from Kyushin Ryu, Hoshino from Shiten Ryu, Inazu from Miura Ryu and finally, Takamatsu, a Kukkishin Ryu master, whose school specialized in weapons training.
Before the formal meeting between Kano and the grandmasters of Japan's greatest Jiu-jitsu schools, a defining event occurred, which is one of the most historically important pieces of the Brazilian Jiu-jitsu puzzle. By 1900, the Kodokan had been challenging other Jiu-Jitsu schools in sport competition and winning with throwing (standing) techniques. Much of the Kodokan's status was built on the throwing skills of Shiro Saigo, a practitioner of Oshikiuchi, the art of Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu. Jigoro Kano had actually enlisted the help of Shiro Saigo in order to win a famous tournament at the Tokyo police headquarters in 1886. This tournament, mentioned briefly earlier in this chapter, was Judo (Kano's style of Jujitsu) vs. "old" Jujitsu. It is interesting to note that Kano's champion was not originally a Judo student at all, but a student of an older Jujitsu style, which in reality, defeated the purpose of having a Judo vs. Jujitsu tournament in the first place.
As I stated earlier, Judo was a collection of Jiu-jitsu styles, once such style was the Fusen Ryu. Fusen was a school of Jiu-jitsu which specialized in Ground Work (Ne Waza). In 1900, the Kodokan challenged the Fusen Ryu school to a contest. At that time Judo did not have Ne Waza (ground fighting techniques), so instead they fought standing up, as Kano had been taught in both the Tenshin Shinyo Ryu and Kito Ryu systems he studied. Both Kito Ryu and Tenshin Shinyo Ryu had excellent striking skills and effective throws.
When Kodokan Judo practitioners fought the practitioners of Fusen Ryu Jiu-Jitsu, the Kodokan practitioners realized that there was no way they could defeat the Kodokan Judoka standing, thus they decided to use their superior ground fighting skills. When the Kodokan fighters and the Fusen Ryu men began to fight, the Jiu-Jitsu practitioners immediately went to the guard position ( lying on their backs in front of their opponents in order to control them with the use of their legs). The Kodokan Judoka didn't know what to do, and then the Fusen Ryu practitioners took them to the ground, using submission holds to win the matches. This was the first real loss that the Kodokan had experienced in eight years.
Kano knew that if they were going to continue challenging other Jiu-Jitsu schools, they needed a full range of ground fighting techniques. Thus with friends of other Jiu-Jitsu systems, among them being Fusen Ryu practitioners, Kano formulated the Ne Waza (ground techniques) of Kodokan Judo which included three divisions: Katame Waza (joint locking techniques), Shime Waza (choking techniques), and Osae Waza (holding techniques). This all occurs shortly before Judo arrives in Brazil, and serves as an excellent suggestion as to why Brazilian Jiu-jitsu contains a higher percentage of techniques on the ground than most styles of Jiu-jitsu or Judo. Thus, we find ourselves faced with the impending development of Jiu-Jitsu in Brazil.
Jiu-Jitsu in Brazil
Eventually, in Japan many different variations of the art (Jiu-Jitsu) took shape, including Karate, Aikido, and Judo. But these arts were missing essential pieces of what the complete art of Jiu-Jitsu originally held. Soon the day of the Samurai came to an end, the gun replaced the sword, and new sportive ways to practice martial arts were developed. This lack of reality created years of confusion in the martial arts community, a confusion that legendary Bruce Lee would later refer to as the 'classical mess'. The 'sport arts', such as Judo and Kendo were wonderful in the way of offering their practitioners a safe way to realistically train the techniques of their system, but often limited their practitioners with too many rules to maintain effectiveness as a combative style. The more traditional combat schools were simply practicing techniques no longer suitable for modern day combat, and with no way to safely test them, practicing these arts became like swimming without water. It wasn't until the sport art of Judo and the combat art of Jiu-Jitsu were introduced to the Gracie family in Brazil that the real art of Jiu-Jitsu would be brought to life again. Japanese Jiu-Jitsu (practiced as Judo) was introduced to the Gracie family in Brazil (@ 1915) by Esai Maeda, who is also known as Conde Koma. This name came about when Maeda was in Spain (1908). While in Spain, Maeda, having some financial troubles, used the Japanese verb "komaru", meaning to be in trouble, to describe himself. Maeda decided this didn't sound right, so he dropped the last syllable and changed it to "koma." The word "conde" comes from the Spanish language, meaning "Count." Later in his life, Maeda would be given the Brazilian title of "Conte Comte," or Count Combat.
Maeda was a champion of Judo and a direct student of its founder, Jigoro Kano, at the Kodokan in Japan. He was born in 1878, and became a student of Judo in 1897. In 1904 Maeda was given the opportunity to travel to the United States with one of his teachers, Tsunejiro Tomita. While in the U.S. they demonstrated the art of Judo for Theodore Roosevelt at the White House, and for cadets at the West Point Military Academy. This is an exert from Roosevelt's letters to his children on wrestling and Jiu-jitsu (note the spelling is Jiu-jitsu, not Jujutsu due to the fact that it is before 1950):
That is all about the two different arts so decide for yourself ^.^
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or Japanese Jiu Jitsu?
BJJ has more ground techniques. It is intended more for a "one on one" match style fight. It works great in self defense if you are isolated and alone with your opponent. It does utilize more "leverage" style and as such requires less strength. Most of what makes BJJ, BJJ is there ground techniques. They also favor the guard quite a bit. Japanese JJ will probably blend better with wing-chun. Traditional JJ is a combination of striking and locking. They try to avoid the ground at all cost. This is, in my opinion, better for actual defense since very rarely would you want to be on your back on the ground in a fight. Or on top of your opponent on the ground in a fight. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that most fights aren't going to be "one on one." Especially if you are getting the better of someone else. Since JJ is the "parent" style of BJJ then if you are not interested in the "ground techniques" you're better off to get the stand up from the source. Plus, I doubt Wing Chun is very functional on your back with your feet in the air.
Reply:i think japanese is better because dispite that brazilians have better judo and they have that other techneque that gets the opponent confused japenese have more techneaques and it would blend with wing chun
Reply:i would recommend boxing, most of the street fights are fistfight, nobody does grabbling in the streets, so boxing remains the most effective way of fighting.
Reply:Japanese Jiujitsu is based more on power. BJJ is based much more on technique and leverage, allowing amuch smaller person to submit a bigger stronger opponant. And personally, I prefer learning ground skills simply because the first thing a man does when he attacks a female is knock her to the ground. You have to know how to defend yourself from your back
Reply:BJJ is more sport, JJ is more defense. The reason to learn it over boxing is because most street fighters punch, use the element of surprise.
Like we say in jujutsu
punch a man he gets back up
kick a man he may get back up
break his arms and legs he is guaranteed not to get back up
Reply:japenese.cross train in muay thai.
Reply:Japanese is going to be less practical and more "traditional". More of an "art". BJJ is more for fighting. Prob BJJ goes better w/ Wing Chun since it's more loose.
Reply:The first thing that you have to understand is that there is not a single system of jujutsu (that's how you spell the Japanese kind). The Japanese use the word "jujutsu" to refer to unarmed combat in general; so many older martial arts would include a few jujutsu techniques among the more important sword, spear, archery, etc. techniques.
At the beginning of the 17th century, a thousand-year-long period of civil war came to an end, and Japanese samurai were able focus on one specific area of combat for study. From this period come many different styles called "jujutsu," some of which are very similar and some of which are very different. Some still incorporated weapons; some specialized in ground fighting; some specialized in striking, and were very similar to Okinawan karate; most, however, specialized in throwing techniques and standing grappling.
At the end of the 19th century, a man named Kano Jigoro developed an athletic form of jujutsu called "judo"; it was designed from techniques taken from several different styles of jujutsu, but eliminated the more dangerous techniques, such as joint-breaking throws. It was intended as a form of physical exercise and self-defense which could be practiced at full speed without partners injuring each other.
Maeda Mitsuyo was a practitioner of judo who moved to Brazil and taught the Gracie family. He modified judo to incorporate more ground fighting, and used the old designation of "jujutsu." The Gracie family continued to refine it to their own purposes until creating their own public vehicle, the UFC. They also used a Portuguese pronounciation of the word, calling their system jiu-jitsu.
Brazilian jiu-jitsu enjoys a great advantage in the ring. Essentially, you trade all of your mobility and situational awareness for the ability to inflict pain or unconsciousness upon a single opponent.
Contrarily, most systems of jujutsu train to remain standing. While this may lose matches in a necessarily aggressive competitive sport, maintaining situational awareness and the ability to move around your environment, especially in the presence of weaponry and multiple opponents, makes the Japanese systems more tactically viable. Also, due to the emphasis on remaining upright, the Japanese systems would blend better with Wing Chun.
My personal recommendation, if you have access to a school, is to check out Danzan ryu:
www.danzan.com.
Train hard!
Reply:Development of Jiu-Jitsu
Jiu-Jitsu itself was developed in Japan during the Feudal period. It was originally an art designed for warfare, but after the abolition of the Feudal system in Japan, certain modifications needed to be made to the art in order to make it suitable for practice. During Feudal times, Jiu-Jitsu was also known as Yawara, Hakuda, Kogusoko, and an assortment of other names. The earliest recorded use of the word "jiu-jitsu" happens in 1532 and is coined by the Takenouchi Ryu (school). The history of the art during this time is uncertain because teachers kept everything secret to give their art a feeling of importance and then would change the stories of their art to suit their own needs.
After the Feudal period in Japan ended (Jiu-jitsu was no longer needed on the battlefield), a way to practice the art realistically was needed, which is why Jigoro Kano (1860--1938), a practitioner of Jiu-Jitsu, developed his own system of Jiu-Jitsu in the late 1800's, called Judo. Judo was helpful because it allowed practitioners the ability to try the art safely and realistically at the same time. The most important contribution Judo made to the practice of "Jiu-jitsu" was the concept of Rondori. Rondori was a form of sparing and contained a set of sportive rules that made practice safe, yet realistic. Because of the sportive outlet (rules that made practice safe), students of Jiu-jitsu from Kano's school were able to practice more frequently due to the fact that they were not always recovering from injuries. This multiplies the amount of training time for student's of Kano's school and drastically increased their abilities. Judo (Kano's version of Jiu-jitsu) was watered down from the complete form (of Jiu-jitsu), but still contained enough techniques to preserve its realistic effectiveness. The one problem that occurred was, in Kano's opinion, ground work was not as important as achieving the throw or take down, therefore ground fighting was not emphasized in Judo and became weak in that system. Judo also began placing too many rules and regulations on the art to make it more acceptable as an Olympic sport. Leg locks were not allowed, and when a fight went to the ground, a player had only 25 seconds to escape a hold or pin before the match was lost. These are a few of the rules that hindered Judo as a realistic form of self-defense. Then why did Judo flourish and why was it so great? Even with all the rules and restrictions, the time-tested principle of "pure grappler beats pure striker," still holds true. The fact remains that most fights, even those fights occurring between strikers with no grappling experience, end up in a clinch. You see the clinch in just about every boxing match, and hundreds of punches usually need to be thrown to end the fight with a strike, which gives the grappler plenty of opportunity to take his/her opponent to the ground, where a pure striker has no experience and is at the grappler's mercy.
After a match-up between older styles of Jiu-jitsu and Judo at the Tokyo police headquarters, Judo was named the national martial art in Japan. It was the official art used by law enforcement in the late 1800's, and continues to be popular to this day. During World War II, many U.S. soldiers were exposed to the art of Judo and brought it back to America with them. The first issue of Black Belt magazine here in America (1961), featured a sketch of a Judo throw and was a special Judo issue.
It wasn't until the birth of martial arts in Hollywood that the mystique of martial arts myths were catapulted to the public eye on a large scale. Here in the U.S. especially, Bruce Lee was one of the greatest catalysts for martial arts in the world today. Bruce Lee was actually a student of Judo and did many studies on grappling while he was alive. He criticized traditional martial arts as being ineffective, but ironically spread more myths about martial arts through his movies than almost anyone in martial arts history.
Jigoro Kano was the founder of Judo, however, Judo is simply a style of Jiu-jitsu and not a separate martial art. Kano was not the first to use the name Judo, the Jiu-jitsu schools he studied at, which would be the source of much of his Judo's techniques had used the phrase before he made it famous in the late 1800's.
The first use of the name Judo was by Seijun Inoue IV, who applied it to his Jujitsu of Jikishin-ryu. Students of Jikishin-ryu Judo were not only expected to master its ninety-seven techniques, but to also develop into generous and gentle-mannered individuals.
Kuninori Suzuki V, the Master of Kito-ryu (Kito means to Rise and Fall) Jiu-jitsu, changed the name of Kito-kumiuchi to Kito-ryu Judo in 1714. The most important contribution that kito ryu would offer Judo was the principle of kuzushi (off-balancing), which is the key to the throwing techniques of modern Judo. Jigoro Kano studied the judo of Jikishin-ryu and Kito-ryu, and incorporated some of their concepts into his original system, which he named Kodokan Judo.
Judo is made up of many styles of Jiu-jitsu whose masters Kano had studied with. The most notable were Jikishin-ryu, Kito-ryu, and later Fusen-ryu would be incorporated for its groundwork (ne waza) as Kano would ask the style's head master, Mataemon Tanabe for his syllabus. Yokiashi Yamashita (Kano's Chief assistant) would add his knowledge of Yoshin Ryu ju jitsu and Tenshin shinyo Ryu ju jitsu, both of which, he was a master.
In 1912, Kano met with the remaining leader masters of Jiu Jitsu to finalize a Kodokan syllabus of training and kata. Aoyagi of Sosusihis Ryu, Takano, Yano, Kotaro Imei and Hikasuburo Ohshima from Takeuisi Ryu. Jushin Sekiguchi and Mogichi Tsumizu from Sekiguchi Ryu, Eguchi from Kyushin Ryu, Hoshino from Shiten Ryu, Inazu from Miura Ryu and finally, Takamatsu, a Kukkishin Ryu master, whose school specialized in weapons training.
Before the formal meeting between Kano and the grandmasters of Japan's greatest Jiu-jitsu schools, a defining event occurred, which is one of the most historically important pieces of the Brazilian Jiu-jitsu puzzle. By 1900, the Kodokan had been challenging other Jiu-Jitsu schools in sport competition and winning with throwing (standing) techniques. Much of the Kodokan's status was built on the throwing skills of Shiro Saigo, a practitioner of Oshikiuchi, the art of Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu. Jigoro Kano had actually enlisted the help of Shiro Saigo in order to win a famous tournament at the Tokyo police headquarters in 1886. This tournament, mentioned briefly earlier in this chapter, was Judo (Kano's style of Jujitsu) vs. "old" Jujitsu. It is interesting to note that Kano's champion was not originally a Judo student at all, but a student of an older Jujitsu style, which in reality, defeated the purpose of having a Judo vs. Jujitsu tournament in the first place.
As I stated earlier, Judo was a collection of Jiu-jitsu styles, once such style was the Fusen Ryu. Fusen was a school of Jiu-jitsu which specialized in Ground Work (Ne Waza). In 1900, the Kodokan challenged the Fusen Ryu school to a contest. At that time Judo did not have Ne Waza (ground fighting techniques), so instead they fought standing up, as Kano had been taught in both the Tenshin Shinyo Ryu and Kito Ryu systems he studied. Both Kito Ryu and Tenshin Shinyo Ryu had excellent striking skills and effective throws.
When Kodokan Judo practitioners fought the practitioners of Fusen Ryu Jiu-Jitsu, the Kodokan practitioners realized that there was no way they could defeat the Kodokan Judoka standing, thus they decided to use their superior ground fighting skills. When the Kodokan fighters and the Fusen Ryu men began to fight, the Jiu-Jitsu practitioners immediately went to the guard position ( lying on their backs in front of their opponents in order to control them with the use of their legs). The Kodokan Judoka didn't know what to do, and then the Fusen Ryu practitioners took them to the ground, using submission holds to win the matches. This was the first real loss that the Kodokan had experienced in eight years.
Kano knew that if they were going to continue challenging other Jiu-Jitsu schools, they needed a full range of ground fighting techniques. Thus with friends of other Jiu-Jitsu systems, among them being Fusen Ryu practitioners, Kano formulated the Ne Waza (ground techniques) of Kodokan Judo which included three divisions: Katame Waza (joint locking techniques), Shime Waza (choking techniques), and Osae Waza (holding techniques). This all occurs shortly before Judo arrives in Brazil, and serves as an excellent suggestion as to why Brazilian Jiu-jitsu contains a higher percentage of techniques on the ground than most styles of Jiu-jitsu or Judo. Thus, we find ourselves faced with the impending development of Jiu-Jitsu in Brazil.
Jiu-Jitsu in Brazil
Eventually, in Japan many different variations of the art (Jiu-Jitsu) took shape, including Karate, Aikido, and Judo. But these arts were missing essential pieces of what the complete art of Jiu-Jitsu originally held. Soon the day of the Samurai came to an end, the gun replaced the sword, and new sportive ways to practice martial arts were developed. This lack of reality created years of confusion in the martial arts community, a confusion that legendary Bruce Lee would later refer to as the 'classical mess'. The 'sport arts', such as Judo and Kendo were wonderful in the way of offering their practitioners a safe way to realistically train the techniques of their system, but often limited their practitioners with too many rules to maintain effectiveness as a combative style. The more traditional combat schools were simply practicing techniques no longer suitable for modern day combat, and with no way to safely test them, practicing these arts became like swimming without water. It wasn't until the sport art of Judo and the combat art of Jiu-Jitsu were introduced to the Gracie family in Brazil that the real art of Jiu-Jitsu would be brought to life again. Japanese Jiu-Jitsu (practiced as Judo) was introduced to the Gracie family in Brazil (@ 1915) by Esai Maeda, who is also known as Conde Koma. This name came about when Maeda was in Spain (1908). While in Spain, Maeda, having some financial troubles, used the Japanese verb "komaru", meaning to be in trouble, to describe himself. Maeda decided this didn't sound right, so he dropped the last syllable and changed it to "koma." The word "conde" comes from the Spanish language, meaning "Count." Later in his life, Maeda would be given the Brazilian title of "Conte Comte," or Count Combat.
Maeda was a champion of Judo and a direct student of its founder, Jigoro Kano, at the Kodokan in Japan. He was born in 1878, and became a student of Judo in 1897. In 1904 Maeda was given the opportunity to travel to the United States with one of his teachers, Tsunejiro Tomita. While in the U.S. they demonstrated the art of Judo for Theodore Roosevelt at the White House, and for cadets at the West Point Military Academy. This is an exert from Roosevelt's letters to his children on wrestling and Jiu-jitsu (note the spelling is Jiu-jitsu, not Jujutsu due to the fact that it is before 1950):
That is all about the two different arts so decide for yourself ^.^
I Used to crack my wrists.Now they crack all the time.How can I stop this?
I am 15 years old and about 2 years ago I started cracking my wrists. I feel no pain or anything like that. But after I stopped cracking them, they crack more easily now than before I started cracking them. For example, simply moving them side to side seems to crack them. This might be a problem for me as I might start Wing Chun which is a martial art that involves alot of weird wrist movements. I don't want to hear cracking constantly.
Is there a way to get rid of the cracking noise? I think it's the ligaments or something that crack because unlike bubbles I can crack them many times without delay. Also, would exercising my wrists and grip with things like powerball(that cool ball which is hard to hold) or those things which you squeeze to strengthen your grip reduce this cracking?
ps Don't bother saying that cracking causes arthiritis, as there is no evidence to suggest that
I Used to crack my wrists.Now they crack all the time.How can I stop this?
Joint cracking is usually the tendons,ligaments or cartilages which are the sources .
One does get it with arthritis but ,obviously, not in your case.
This is usually common among thin people and disappears once they put on weight. Thin people lacks the fat padding that dampens the sound. the sounds are completely harmless in your case.
Enjoy the Wing Chun.
Reply:Actually, it's not the cracking itself that causes the arthiritis, it's the scar tissue left behind, but it doesn't always happen. So, not everyone gets it.
My fingers would pop on their own when I was a kid. Now they still do it, but it's more of a dislocation. Thankfully I can pop them back into place. Perhaps that's what is happening to your wrists.
Reply:let them crack. but don't take my word for it, ask a chiropractor, you know what i mean so forgive my spelling
Reply:I'm not very sure about this but a doctor is always a good place for advise on your health problem.
Reply:I think that's so COOL, doing Wing Chun, martial art! LOL! well, i don't know much about a cracking wrist problem, but i hope it gets better. =)
Is there a way to get rid of the cracking noise? I think it's the ligaments or something that crack because unlike bubbles I can crack them many times without delay. Also, would exercising my wrists and grip with things like powerball(that cool ball which is hard to hold) or those things which you squeeze to strengthen your grip reduce this cracking?
ps Don't bother saying that cracking causes arthiritis, as there is no evidence to suggest that
I Used to crack my wrists.Now they crack all the time.How can I stop this?
Joint cracking is usually the tendons,ligaments or cartilages which are the sources .
One does get it with arthritis but ,obviously, not in your case.
This is usually common among thin people and disappears once they put on weight. Thin people lacks the fat padding that dampens the sound. the sounds are completely harmless in your case.
Enjoy the Wing Chun.
Reply:Actually, it's not the cracking itself that causes the arthiritis, it's the scar tissue left behind, but it doesn't always happen. So, not everyone gets it.
My fingers would pop on their own when I was a kid. Now they still do it, but it's more of a dislocation. Thankfully I can pop them back into place. Perhaps that's what is happening to your wrists.
Reply:let them crack. but don't take my word for it, ask a chiropractor, you know what i mean so forgive my spelling
Reply:I'm not very sure about this but a doctor is always a good place for advise on your health problem.
Reply:I think that's so COOL, doing Wing Chun, martial art! LOL! well, i don't know much about a cracking wrist problem, but i hope it gets better. =)
How many hours per day do any of you train in the martial arts?
(My son wanted me to ask this one.) I average about two hours a day, especially now that it is summer time (benefits of being a school teacher!). I used to get more training time in, but you know how life happens.
My son also says I am supposed to ask if anyone is in the Puget Sound area looking to train in some pretty effective combative arts to get a hold of me (pun intended!). I train in American Wing-Chun Silat (it's what I have my black belt in), Tracy's Kenpo, and Arnis.
How many hours per day do any of you train in the martial arts?
I teach two hours a day, two days a week and train about 10 hours a week. I would like it to be more.
Reply:I teach Jeet Kune Do, so im at the school most of the day.
In personal training i average 4 to 5 hours on weekend 8 to 9
but no im not close to you
Reply:I just started about 5 months ago in Muy Thai. I train about 2 hrs a day/3 days a week. I'm still in school, working, and married, so it's kind of hard to fit it all in. I might have to stop this coming fall, but hopefully I'll be able to get my first amatuer fight in in November. I train with Jurge Gurgel if you've heard of him.
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My son also says I am supposed to ask if anyone is in the Puget Sound area looking to train in some pretty effective combative arts to get a hold of me (pun intended!). I train in American Wing-Chun Silat (it's what I have my black belt in), Tracy's Kenpo, and Arnis.
How many hours per day do any of you train in the martial arts?
I teach two hours a day, two days a week and train about 10 hours a week. I would like it to be more.
Reply:I teach Jeet Kune Do, so im at the school most of the day.
In personal training i average 4 to 5 hours on weekend 8 to 9
but no im not close to you
Reply:I just started about 5 months ago in Muy Thai. I train about 2 hrs a day/3 days a week. I'm still in school, working, and married, so it's kind of hard to fit it all in. I might have to stop this coming fall, but hopefully I'll be able to get my first amatuer fight in in November. I train with Jurge Gurgel if you've heard of him.
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Chosing the right Martial Arts?
Though I have no intention of joining the UFC, or becoming a MMA fighter, I like the concept and idea behind it, that you can mix different martial arts together to make your own fighting style. I currently take boxing, and I wish to open up to other martial arts. I would like to know which martial arts are good, and which ones work together in well when combined. Here is a small list of Martial Arts I would like to try, please rank them from best to worst:
Kung Fu:
Wing Chun
Dragon Kung Fu
Five Animals
Fujian White Crane
Karate:
Goju-Ryu
Kyokushinkai
SeidÅ juku
Keichu Do or Keichu Ryu
Judo, Taekwondo, and Jujitsu.
Also, if you have any suggestions, please feel free to add any martial arts to the list.
Chosing the right Martial Arts?
You can't really rank these best to worst, because:
A. You've got striking arts along side grappling arts.
B. You've got hybrid arts along side the arts in A.
There's no objective way to go about with this (And there's no objective reason why we take martial arts), so you should check wikipedia/wikimartialarts, or just google search each of these styles to figure out what they emphasize. Videos sites like youtube can offer some insight too, but don't trust them as objective truths at all times. Not all the videos involving curriculum or style vs style are accurate.
Style really doesn't matter as much as a good school, proficient training methods, and the fighting ranges. If you don't have that to at least some degree, then it doesn't matter what style you're doing: It's probably not going to help.
Having said that, you can really pick from any of these, as they'll all add to your game.
For example:
Wing Chun is a very fast striking art. If you were to go about it, then you could combine the hand strikes (There's some basic kicks, and "Counter-grappling" [Albeit weak usually because they don't test the grappling on a grappler normally]) from this art with your boxing. Some of the Wing Chun moves might flow well with boxing.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_...
That will help with that section.
What you need to look for is what fighting ranges you want to cover. Boxing has you covered for hand distance strikes, so you can take full contact/knockdown kickboxing/karate/tkd for your legs/knees/elbows, take judo for throws/basic groundwork, take jujutsu for groundwork, and keep going to make your own art from there.
I'm actually in the same boat as you. I'm in MMA now (I've always wanted to learn many styles to make my own concept, per being influenced by my brother), but before I took many traditional arts. Each one has added something to my game whether it's a joint lock here, or a side kick there.
Good luck.
Reply:before you get a style in your head you should check out what styles are taught in your area. And go watch the instructure, A good teacher is better than a good style if you dont like the teacher in a style you really want.
Reply:There are paradigms according to which various martial arts can be categorized. Some of the more important ones off the top of my head would be:
grappling vs. striking
spiritual discipline vs. athleticism/competitiveness
various national traditions (TKD is Korean, animal kung fus tend to be Chinese, karate Japanese [or Okinawan]), if you feel more comfortable with a certain cultural style
also certain styles tend to be better for certain people with certain body types (very tall, short, fat, thin, etc.), so you might do well by adding that perspective to it
also do you really have access to all these styles in your local area? you may be limited by what's available in any case
Since you say you already "take" boxing I would suggest a grappling style (judo, jujitsu) and/or something which involves your legs (i.e. kicking) (TKD comes to mind).
Finally there's also the question of the dojo itself, if you're undecided between styles why not visit both and see if you like the vibe? Different schools can be run very differently, according to the personality of the sensei (or whatever he calls himself).
(I have no idea which styles go together better, since they're all inherently different it may be difficult to find ones that match up. In any case have you tried going to Wikipedia and seeing if there were valuable descriptions of the various styles you're interested--also, have you tried talking to martial arts instructors themselves [of course they will all recommend their style, but they may also recommend another art which meshes together with their own, if you ask them directly]).
P.S. I *believe* Hapkido is a relatively recent (30 years old?) style which combines striking and grappling in equal proportions, in an effort to create a single martial art which is comprehensive. If you check it out and have access to it it may be what you are looking for all in one, and you won't need to learn multiple different styles.
Reply:I do a mixed martial arts class that coves boxing,kickboxing,taichi karate and some others
i would suggest this x
Reply:Take a look at Systema
http://youtube.com/watch?v=O7_dzu4TQDs
Kung Fu:
Wing Chun
Dragon Kung Fu
Five Animals
Fujian White Crane
Karate:
Goju-Ryu
Kyokushinkai
SeidÅ juku
Keichu Do or Keichu Ryu
Judo, Taekwondo, and Jujitsu.
Also, if you have any suggestions, please feel free to add any martial arts to the list.
Chosing the right Martial Arts?
You can't really rank these best to worst, because:
A. You've got striking arts along side grappling arts.
B. You've got hybrid arts along side the arts in A.
There's no objective way to go about with this (And there's no objective reason why we take martial arts), so you should check wikipedia/wikimartialarts, or just google search each of these styles to figure out what they emphasize. Videos sites like youtube can offer some insight too, but don't trust them as objective truths at all times. Not all the videos involving curriculum or style vs style are accurate.
Style really doesn't matter as much as a good school, proficient training methods, and the fighting ranges. If you don't have that to at least some degree, then it doesn't matter what style you're doing: It's probably not going to help.
Having said that, you can really pick from any of these, as they'll all add to your game.
For example:
Wing Chun is a very fast striking art. If you were to go about it, then you could combine the hand strikes (There's some basic kicks, and "Counter-grappling" [Albeit weak usually because they don't test the grappling on a grappler normally]) from this art with your boxing. Some of the Wing Chun moves might flow well with boxing.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_...
That will help with that section.
What you need to look for is what fighting ranges you want to cover. Boxing has you covered for hand distance strikes, so you can take full contact/knockdown kickboxing/karate/tkd for your legs/knees/elbows, take judo for throws/basic groundwork, take jujutsu for groundwork, and keep going to make your own art from there.
I'm actually in the same boat as you. I'm in MMA now (I've always wanted to learn many styles to make my own concept, per being influenced by my brother), but before I took many traditional arts. Each one has added something to my game whether it's a joint lock here, or a side kick there.
Good luck.
Reply:before you get a style in your head you should check out what styles are taught in your area. And go watch the instructure, A good teacher is better than a good style if you dont like the teacher in a style you really want.
Reply:There are paradigms according to which various martial arts can be categorized. Some of the more important ones off the top of my head would be:
grappling vs. striking
spiritual discipline vs. athleticism/competitiveness
various national traditions (TKD is Korean, animal kung fus tend to be Chinese, karate Japanese [or Okinawan]), if you feel more comfortable with a certain cultural style
also certain styles tend to be better for certain people with certain body types (very tall, short, fat, thin, etc.), so you might do well by adding that perspective to it
also do you really have access to all these styles in your local area? you may be limited by what's available in any case
Since you say you already "take" boxing I would suggest a grappling style (judo, jujitsu) and/or something which involves your legs (i.e. kicking) (TKD comes to mind).
Finally there's also the question of the dojo itself, if you're undecided between styles why not visit both and see if you like the vibe? Different schools can be run very differently, according to the personality of the sensei (or whatever he calls himself).
(I have no idea which styles go together better, since they're all inherently different it may be difficult to find ones that match up. In any case have you tried going to Wikipedia and seeing if there were valuable descriptions of the various styles you're interested--also, have you tried talking to martial arts instructors themselves [of course they will all recommend their style, but they may also recommend another art which meshes together with their own, if you ask them directly]).
P.S. I *believe* Hapkido is a relatively recent (30 years old?) style which combines striking and grappling in equal proportions, in an effort to create a single martial art which is comprehensive. If you check it out and have access to it it may be what you are looking for all in one, and you won't need to learn multiple different styles.
Reply:I do a mixed martial arts class that coves boxing,kickboxing,taichi karate and some others
i would suggest this x
Reply:Take a look at Systema
http://youtube.com/watch?v=O7_dzu4TQDs
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