Monday, November 16, 2009

What do you martial artists think?

http://www.wingchunassoc.com/





Do you think this would be a McDojo?





For my previous answerers in my previous questions, thanks for ur answers and i will take into consideration to check the place out. But from what i hear, most wing chun schools now 'a days want your money and they don't make you work effectively. What is your opinion on this school from the site? remember most schools that have the GREAT instructors are small private schools so they can concentrate more, this seems like it. It isn't over confident, it doesn't look attractive, which is good and bad, BUT it shows their lineage of people who passed it down from from hong kong to hawaii to california, and they have a big list of instructors, and if there are a lot of certified instructors it means it's probably a good school, right?





what questions do you recommend i ask there? Like i said before in my last 2 questions, my karate school is closing down and this is gonna have a big effect on the something i love to do, MA

What do you martial artists think?
It's nice when a school can post lineage. But how do you know if all those pictures are accurate and real? Could be someone's cousins, neighbors, etc. In my opinion, lineage is not as important as effectiveness.





Can the teachers teach? Does what they are teaching ",make sense"?





I'd suggest trying to talk to students at the place, and see what they think. If they would sign up again, or go somewhere else if they had the choice.
Reply:think of it like a job interview for a job you want. be polite,


and be upfront with your goals as a martial artist. and as always, dont make a commitment deal that involves rank. besides rank doesnt mean as much as confidence in technique.


good luck
Reply:This a great School, do you know Sifu Vasquez? Where do you live?





LR


http://www.pacificwingchunassociation.co...
Reply:The best thing you can do to decide whether or not this school is a McDojo is to observe a class or two. See whether the instructor knows what s/he is talking about, and whether there is a difference between how beginner students perform and advanced students. Don't judge the school based on what the stereotype is.


I belong to a bigger martial arts company, one that has been referred to as a McDojo, and I have to say that I've heard of some schools like that within the company. The particular dojo I attend, however, is taught very much like a smaller private school, as you said. I like that there is a lineage, so you always know that this stuff wasn't made up by some guy 20 years ago because martial arts were popular and he needed the money, but created over the years by people who knew what they were doing.
Reply:What is with the random pictures of kittens and dolled up women? lol.
Reply:A couple of things that I noticed about it was that is very cultural and the huge number of pictures of various things shows I think its broad spectrum of people that are involved with it or train in it. This is not bad if you want and like that sort of thing and this school can probably expose you to some good instructors in that art from various places. Not everyone is attracted to all that and they chose to fore-go it for something more direct, like MMA, kickboxing, etc. I think you should ask questions along the lines of where your interests are at with respect to advancement and promotions, self-defense, competing (if wanting to compete), fighting, etc. Schools, arts, and instructors like this one not everyone respects but that usually is out of ignorance or just a general lack of interest and appreciation for that art and what it encompasses.


What martial arts work well with a boxing stance?

I belong to a boxing club, where I have been training for a few months now. I have a interest in returning to martial arts to practise Kung Fu (I have a very small background in Karate.) However, my coach says that I should pick a Kung Fu that doesn't "mess up" my boxing stance, like Wing Chun. I was thinking of practising more than one Martial Art, and I was wondering if any martial artist or masters would have some good martial arts that work well with the boxing stance, and if so, please go into detail about what the name of the style is. Thank you

What martial arts work well with a boxing stance?
well, sure wing chun works very well. But it depends on the instructors. Wing chun is probably the closest kung fu to boxing. Jeet kun do is another option, Bruce lee mixed eastern and western arts up, including boxing.





But it depends on what your target is, self defence? sports?








If you want to be in a sport such as MMA then you should do muy thai kick boxing, or grappling (although grappling doesn't have anything to do with your question)





wing chun is a self defense not a sport. MMA can be street defense to but MMA styles usually concentrate on one person, and in the streets a lot of the time it's multiple people, weapons, etc.





The concept of street fighting is to finish it as fast as you can, don't go to boxing stance and start looking cool, end it ASAP.


But don't try to fight in the first place.





opposite of sports, since it has rules and you have to fight.





The best arts to mix are grappling and stand up.





Note that most of the time you don't wanna be grappling the person in street defense because one of his friends can come and kick you anywere that's open and it WILL hurt.
Reply:no such thing as messing up. wing chun and any other kung fu is fine. the school i go to is kung fu and MMA and theres nothign wrong with my stance. its all muscle memory. the point is a boxing stance its for fighting while kung fu stances are for performance but sometimes work in real life
Reply:I would say some sort of MMA would go well with it





I do Boxing and Japanese JuJitsu


and they accept a boxing stance when we spar at jujitsu
Reply:Muay Thai
Reply:I'd actually stay away from kung fu. that particular art will tend to do wide, and exotic stances.





In my training, I've found that Tang Soo Do, Kenpo, aikido, muay thai, and shito ryu karate all use a 'fightin stance' which is exactly what a boxer would use.
Reply:u can do some kick boxing like muey tai. or some aikijujutsu.


basically any martail arts that stands straight up.


to get real technical, try fencing.


wing chug is a good idea though.
Reply:Question should be what martial arts technique can be performed well from a boxing stance since that seems to be your main interest.


Answer = just about any of them .Tailor the technique to your boxing stance DO NOT change your boxing stance .
Reply:Check out some Wing Chun websites and do some research, but do not become a martial arts gypsy.





Many cups but all half empty...
Reply:American Kickboxing (K-1); Muay Thai or Chute Boxing.
Reply:I would stick to boxing for stand up and do some ground work for the mma. I am sure the folks over at http://www.fightjunkie.net/forum can answer the question better.


What are the differences between Savate and Kickboxing?

yeah, the kickboxing i'm learning has kung fu influences (mainly wing chun and mantis) So its not the same as regular kickboxing, i'll just list the offensive moves we do for now. (the above question stands though)





Jab


Cross


Hook


Uppercut


Elbow (going in)


Elbow (going out)





Front kick


Roundhouse kick (with shin)


Side kick


Step side kick


Back side kick


Cresent Kick


Back Cresent Kick


Spinning back cresent kick (i think thats the right name, basically we normally do it following a normal cresent, so, its cresent kick carry on rotating, then back cresent)


Knees


Thrust Kick





I know that knees and elbows have been added from muay thai. A few of the kicks i'm fairly sure aren't normally KB kicks.


Most of the kung fu elements are in blocks etc.





Anyway yeah, if anyone can answer the main question, and tell me if the offensive repetoire of the kickboxing i'm learning is normal or not.

What are the differences between Savate and Kickboxing?
Savate is French kickboxing and uses the foot alone.
Reply:its seems similar, but one thing i noticed different is in the kick. muay thai/kickboxing usually uses the shin to kick, in savate they sometimes use the tip of the foot since they wear shoes.

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Does anyone know an American Baqua instructor in the Greater NYC area of Italian heritage?

I met a very talented Baqua instructor once while performing a Wing Chun Demo. His first name was Thomas or Tom, and he demonstrated the striking and throwing applications for all the palm changes in one form. I have seen only one other Baqua zhang instructors demonstrating these applications, and he was a very old man in China. I'd like to identify and locate this gentleman.


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Any help finding Tom would be most appreciated. Also, he was training an American female instructor, if Tom is retired, she would be a great substitute.

Does anyone know an American Baqua instructor in the Greater NYC area of Italian heritage?
Sorry I can't help - but with at least one answer, the question won't be deleted by Yahoo answers. I've posted "look for " questions before, and if you don't get at least one answer, the question gets deleted.





Good luck.


Does anyone know an American Baqua instructor in the Greater NYC area of Italian heritage?

I met a very talented Baqua instructor once while performing a Wing Chun Demo. His first name was Thomas or Tom, and he demonstrated the striking and throwing applications for all the palm changes in one form. I have seen only one other Baqua zhang instructors demonstrating these applications, and he was a very old man in China. I'd like to identify and locate this gentleman.


1 day ago - 2 days left to answer.


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Any help finding Tom would be most appreciated. Also, he was training an American female instructor, if Tom is retired, she would be a great substitute.

Does anyone know an American Baqua instructor in the Greater NYC area of Italian heritage?
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Best martial art for self defence in real situations?

I know of course that it's best not to get into fights in the first place and to be aware of my surroundings and all that but sometimes it can't be helped.





Which martial art (or is there another name?) do you think is the best for real fighting, not sparring?





I'd like to practice properly so I'm not looking just to know a couple of moves or to carry a taser or something :)


I've heard that aikido, kung fu (especially wing chun), krav maga and forms of judo/jujitsu are quite good for this and that tae kwon do and other high kicking ones aren't too good on the street. Am I right?

Best martial art for self defence in real situations?
Krav Manga is the most practical. I've taken both Karate and Kung fu to advanced levels and they're pretty abstract.
Reply:My favorites are Judo and maybe aikido, but the closest place I can find 4 myself is Tae Kwon Doe. Which I think I like the best for me .
Reply:krav maga is probably the best, but thats only if your in the israeli army, if not forget about it.





There are really a ton of martial arts that could help you in a street fight, especially the more aggressive ones.
Reply:From what i know aikido uses the other persons force/weight against them (steven segal) so even if you are small its a good form of defense
Reply:Most very successful ultimate fighters have a strong boxing/kickboxing, and Wrestling or Jujitsu back ground. If your a big guy I would work on the boxing, if your smaller Judo or Jujitsu may be the way to go.
Reply:Judo...focuses a great deal with balance,center of gravity and also uses real life situation's for practice.


Most kicking type arts are not good in the street.
Reply:Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu hands down is the best self defense system. The best way to see is through the UFC, the core of that contest is Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I never heard about Krav Maga, Aikido, Kung Fu or Tae Kwo do practicioners competing in that event. These arts wouldn't give them support for a realistic situation
Reply:none of the above, learn CQC (close quatar combats)


good way to defend yourself without any fancy shiet
Reply:I recomend shaolin kung fu is the best martial arts also the hardes to learn with their teaching concentarte into body mind and spirite as well as flexibility non agressive, also they teach 12 animals style,and weaponery an more into self decipline. ( example jet li )


krav maga was very heavy fighting style like a street fighter this martial arts was very agressive which they used to teach marine, police and army combat , I train both if this martial
Reply:honestly boxing or kickboxing works best for real fights. but its also good to know at least some wrestling or brazilian jujitsu in case the fight goes to the ground. these all work the best because they're not just forms and moves. you actually spar regularly which is practical practice. and you can compete which is basically a real fight. so you get lots of real time practice. you gain confidence in your moves because you see what actually works for you.i've tried karate, kung fu, and muaythai kickboxing. so i speak from experience.
Reply:Not quite.





-Practicality is NOT objective. No one in this world makes use of every technique with the styles and systems that they do. Everyone either suggest using basic moves (In a complex manner when needed), or advanced moves, as most don't use anything beyond 30 moves at max while standing. You form your strategy (Or even more specific: Your "Style") from what you learn. The means by which you get there don't matter as much as the way you train your body and mind. If you take "T3H MEGA STYLE," and you don't train well: Someone in something else can easily take you. "A punch is a punch. A kick is a kick."





There's no objective truth to this, because we are all different. Should everyone be completed cross trained? Yes, but that doesn't mean people can't adopt strategies that apply to their bodytype, goals, tactics, and more. EX: I'm ectomorphic. I HAVE to strike. I have great tolerance for submissions for a n00b as well. If people don't do things exactly right, then I'm not taping. Since starting MMA, this has happened me about five times: The reason I tap is because in the middle of ground grappling, the instructor fixes their lock, because I'm not feeling any pain. lol





What you have to worry about is the "Fighting/Combat Ranges" that you are learning. Most of the time when someone says "X style beat y," there's a dramatic dissonance that stems from style pride. People forget that a person that strictly knows boxing is only going to know how to fight standing, and so forth. That boxer is surely going to have deadly striking, but if things go the ground: What will they do with a trained grappler?





Training methods determine the applicability of a style. If you learn to score a point, pull your punches, and never spar: Then street fighting will be over your head in most cases.





As for TKD: People see demos and think that's all it has to offer. That isn't true, and there's full contact variants of WTF and ITF style Tae Kwon Do, as well as some k1/mma fighters that take pieces, or even fight strictly with it as a standing style (Ozaki, Galesic, Juras, Talipatu, Park Yong Soo and so forth).


TKD has a thousand hand techniques, and many kicks. Besides: It's a fallacy to think being able to kick high means you can't kick low, and the kicks are done to torso and above; They aren't all head kicks, unless it's a demo.





Every style has its share of "Sports variants." Some apply over well to the street, and others do not. Make sure you consider that with your decision.





You might think now "Are you strictly TKD?" No, I've taken many styles. They've all added to my game. In my MMA class now, my striking is efficient. My instructor and his assistant are both much heavier than I am though (Pretty quick too), which gives them an advantage.





Just look for a good school, think about the ranges you're covering (Boxing covers the fist, Jujutsu covers the ground grappling range, and so forth), and make sure there's hard sparring, or street emulated scenarios at least. That's all you need. A style is just a term to describe a system: How you use it is all up to you.





Good luck.
Reply:Any art can do well if applied properly. That being said, I think Kajukenbo is one of the best for real world self defense.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kajukenbo


http://www.kajukenboinfo.com/kajukenbohi...
Reply:personally i think kickboxing as it uses alot of punches and kicks (not always high) in lessons you will often spar which is good fighting practice.
Reply:in a real life threatening situation things such as a hard elbow or kicks to the liver and groin are best. you don't want to use fighting techniques which will ultimately prolong the fight. hit first and as hard as you can with an elbow to the face or a front kick to the groin and then other person will most likely not want to fight anymore. just about any martial arts will teach this, it is not so much the system you chose it is the teacher which is important. remember it is not the system that makes the fighter but the fighter that makes the system.


What styles/concepts are mixed in the MMA school/class you go to?

I just switched MMA schools due to one being more closer, cheaper (Actually just because of gas lol :p), and more frequent.





The original school mixed BJJ, Muay Thai, Wing Chun, and he also has an instructor cordao in Capoeira (He taught that on the side).





The school I went to today (That I'm most likely changing to permanently until I leave for BMT) mixes:


Striking- American Kenpo and Kickboxing





Grappling- Brazilian and Small Circle Jujutsu.





What about you?

What styles/concepts are mixed in the MMA school/class you go to?
My Muay Thai instructor is ranked in Brazilian Jujitsu also. We practice that also for most fights end up on the ground.
Reply:TKD, Aikido and drunken boxing... JK :D