Sunday, April 26, 2009

Wing Chun Dummy problem?

I am trying to get a Wing Chun Dummy ( mostly because it would probably add easily a 30 minutes to my training routine) But im not sure what it is for, ive seen people use it in videos, but what are they actually doing? Are we supose to imagine that the horizontal parts are arms and legs and that we are blocking it and countering ( like thos wing chun interception moves) Or is it an actual from that we practice on it?, or just hit it just like that? Also, my Sifu says that i shouldnt use it because it could hurt my arm and stuff, Can it really hurt someone that bad, if so what do i need to do so it wont hurt?

Wing Chun Dummy problem?
since you have seen some videos on it, i infer that you have used youtube. so to answer your first question:





1. yes the horizontal parts are supposed to be arms and legs. what you do is move around as you would a real foe, (there are videos that demonstrate people moving from left to right in a semi circular movement, whilst simultaneously blocking and punching.) and block the horizontal parts move your feet accordingly. this will simulate a fight whereby everyone moves around and the trajectory and angle of your opponents strikes change.





2. if your sifu is from wingchun he SHOULD tell you how to use it. but you DONT use it when you are still new to wingchun. because wooden dummy training is after you have learnts the basics and fundamentals of the art. or else when you actually practice it, you will be practising WRONG forms. remeber this, "it takes 500 repetitions to learn a move. but 5000 repitions to correct a wrong form"





3. have you seen muay thai and chinese martial art practitioners conditioning limbs? most popular should be muay thai, from "kickboxer", where our friend Jean Claud Van Damme kept kicking that coconut tree (till it fell down)? thats to condition the shins. now, the Mook Yan Joong (MYJ, the wing chun dummy) can also work like that too, hence you feel your hands hurt. so results of proper training are stated. but. if your sifu does not advise you to do it, dont do it. do note that you need some kind of makiwara rope/sandbag pads on the mook yan joong. that will make it huert less. key is progressive training.





4. there is an old adage that boards dont hit back right? so dont punching bags. but MYJ sort of does. key is in the mentallity, a similar one to shadow boxing where you are sparring with a real opponent. those imobile arms and legs actually move, and from these strikes you move and counter. and you move around too.











but my best advise to you is, ask your sifu why he does not want you to practice on it first. and you do need someone to correct your form when you start out, so i wont advise you practice it just because you have seen some videos of it on youtube.
Reply:strange that your sifu said that... he probably doesn't know


how to use it or what it's for. even for beginners, you can still


do basic drills on it. eg. Tan-Dar, Pak-Dar, Huen-Sao, Bong...all from SLT YGKYM stance without shifting. Report It

Reply:Wooden dummy to use to practice footwork, check your positioning, and learn to generate power from your horse. Report It

Reply:Its a load of crap mate dont use them full stop.


Because they teach you bad habbits they dont move or counter back...... whats the point ?


Your opponent isn't going to just stand still for you is he ?


You are better off using practical methods like full contact sparring thats the only way to become a better fighter and to tough'n up.


I have used them but found them more of a little wooden toy then any use.


Youre sifu tells you not to use them what the **** is on about in Wing Chun thats what they use so i would be finding a real instructor.


Wing Chun is more based on theory and think to deep into there system thats why they use them and their other props.


So if he tells you not to use them because they can hurt you then i would start wondering if he has- ever fought before.


Ask him If this will hurt my arms then what about when i get into a real fight what would hurt more ?


Tell your sifu to harden the **** up !
Reply:I have not studied Wing Chun on a formal basis but I do not think that the WC dummy is crap. I have a series on dvd on that style and I believe there is at least one on the dummy. E-mail me at: cagedraptor@yahoo.com I will be more than willing to ship a dvd+ copy of them to you. Get with me if your intrested.
Reply:just you tube some wooden dummy forms.





wooden dummy are used for conditioning and practicing moves


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