How can u tell someone ???

i train alot in reality based systems cause im not one for the traditional stuff or sport stuff (thats just me) but my friend loves Wing Chun - no worries nothing wrong with that but he keeps raving how good it is and this and that but everytime we fight or train he loses badly ? cause most people would know that Wing Chun is pretty crap for fighting (good for theory) i tell him to try spomething new doesnt have to be reality stuff but something that actually works. But he insists its the best but in reality its not how could i explain to him and get it through his head and he isnt a starter he has been training for 10 years and teaching for 4 years ????????? any ideas...

How can u tell someone ???
you cant. he has fully fallen for the hype. when you get told the sky is falling often enough you start to look up. he is fully looking up.





just like in cults, the head will fill the minds of the followers with mantras of the systems worth. and your friend is not going to stop believing the hype because even when you beat his unbeatable style he cant stop to smell the flowers.
Reply:Well, you kind of just answered your question. Just tell him. Wing Chun is a great martial art, but some martial arts work well for some and some don't. In your friend's case, Wing Chun isn't working well, even though he's trained for 10 years. Maybe suggest he come with you to a session in your dojo or training facility. Maybe he needs a more contemporary art like Krav Maga, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, or Kempo to help round him out and help him in areas he is lacking.
Reply:keep kickin his but and he'll eventually figure it out
Reply:This is a difficult situation. Mabye say that he could come along to one of your classes. He might not want to give it up, because he has been working so hard on it. Anyway, what does it matter if you always beat him at fighting? I guess it would get tiring all the bragging, but just bear with it. You could just tell him to please stop bragging as much.
Reply:Man, its hard enough to start a new art, and lest something drastic happons i doubt you will convince him otherwise, he is teaching already i mean, people see him as a leader, i doubt he would give this up





The only way you can show him is by slowly convinceing him to do something else, they won't want to do anything unless they want to so you have to look for a reason why he may want to, maby you can tell him that if you do this too when you opent up your school you can teach this as well or something, that way he will want to try something new and then its still up to him to decide





Don't waste too much energy, its very hard to change someones thinking and im guessing he is a little older so it would be even harder for him to change his ways, he may actually be a better fighter if he keeps doing WC at this point in time
Reply:Sparring.





Spar with him, and if you can invite him to gyms where sparring is available.





If his style is indeed effective, he'll find out by sparring.
Reply:You can tell someone all you want, but if they're an adult and they've made up their mind on what is right for them, you're going to have a hard time dissuading them or changing their mind.





If your friend has been training in Wing Chun for 10 years and teaching for 4 years, then he is obviously getting a signficant amount of enjoyment and accomplishment out of his art. Martial arts is NOT all about fighting. It's about developing mind, body, and spirit. It's as much about what you put back into the art and your community as what you take away from it.





It's very possible that while your entire focus seems to be defensive ability and winning your play fights, his could be an entirely diffrent focus. When I play spar with most of my friends I certainly don't put everything into it, or use all of my technique, and often I'm just literally playing with them for the fun of it. Have you seen your friend actually have to defend himself physically in a live and dangerous situation? It may be he has much more experience, skill, and ability than he ever shows you - or he may not and he many be just fine with that.





If you've discussed your concerns with him, offered him alterantive approaches, and he has politely refused them and continues with what he obviously loves and enjoys, then leave him alone and respect his wishes and decision. If he changes his mind later on, he undoubtedly knows whom he can approach for alternatives, thought with 10 years of experience under his belt, I'm sure he'd be well able to figure that out for himself also.





I think you are caught up in the whole current UFC/MMA and "street fighting" fad while your friend is evidently not.





Ken C


9th Dan HapMoosaKi-Do


8th Dan TaeKwon-Do


7th Dan YongChul-Do