Sunday, April 26, 2009

Wing Chun, Ving Tsun or Wing Tsun?

Previously i asked a question about Wing Chun, i received great info about it.....so thanks to all who answered.





Basically i want to take up Wing Chun, however when i was researching Ving Tsun and Wing Tsun came up as well. Some site claim that they are all the same, other don't. So my question is Wing Chun, Ving Tsun and Wing Tsun the same form of Kung Fu

Wing Chun, Ving Tsun or Wing Tsun?
They all mean the same. When the system first came into public knowledge in the West, (via US magazines such as Black Belt), the art was spelt as Wing Chun. The first book published on Wing Chun in the West used the term 'Wing Chun' (ref: Ralph Clausnitzer %26amp; Greco Wong, 'Wing Chun' pub: Paul H. Crompton), following books (such as James Y. Lee; "Wing Chun", O'Hara Publications) also used the spelling. However, some Wing Chun stylists from Yip Man argued it was incorrectly spelt and should be spelt 'Ving Tsun' (such as Victor Kan in the UK and (I believe) Hawkin's Cheung and Moy Yat in the US). The term 'Wing Tsun' was primarily pushed by Leong Ting in Hong Kong and promoted throughout the world by his students such as Emin Boetzip and Keith Kernspect. Personally, I believe (after over 35 years studying the art) that this was as much to distance itself from Bruce Lee as much as anything!





Wing Chun has always been one of the most political of systems simply because Yip Man left no clear successor but many who claim to be his heir. However, the case for it being called Wing Chun is both historical and, to a great extent, hierarchal as not only did Bruce call the art Wing Chun but so did Wong Shun Long (without doubt one of the most senior WC sifu) and as do his two sons, Ip Chun and Ip Ching.





I believe that there is a style distinct from Wing Chun called 'Weng Chun'. I also know that there are several pre-Hong Kong Wing Chun systems in mainland China which are very different to what is mostly known in the West (much more convoluted and traditional).
Reply:yea. all of them translated forn chiness language. so all of them are the same
Reply:Basically, yes. Every school will be different, as it is the teachers expression of the art, but the style is basically the same. Those are just different ways of saying it, depending on which language and dialect is being spoken.
Reply:The only differences would be instructor preferences which is true of any method.Those that say they are teaching something "different" or more "effective" are just playing politics or commercialism again true of any method.


Or just plain phony.
Reply:Wing Chun is the commonly accepted way of spelling in English. They are the same.
Reply:They are all various romanizations of the same word from 3 chinese dialects.





Wing Chun - Cantonese


Ving Tsun, or Wing Tsun - FuShanese


Yong Chun - Mandarin

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